#include<string>
#include<cctype>
using namespace std;
int Count(string key,string str)
{
	int cnt =0,pos=0;
	while(true)
	{
		int t=str.find(key,pos);
		if(t==-1)
		{
			return cnt;
		}
		else
		{
			cnt++;
			pos= t+key.size()-1;//因为有空格说以一定要-1 去查 
		}
	}
}
string Lower(string s)
{
	for(int i=0;i<=s.size()-1;i++)
	{
		s[i]=tolower(s[i]);
	}
	return s;
	
}
int main()
{
	string key,str;
	getline(cin,key);
	getline(cin,str);
	key=Lower(key)+" ";//引用函数lower把字符串变成小写并尾部加空格再赋值 
	str=Lower(str)+" "; 
	key.insert(0," ");//把字符串首位也加上空格 
	str.insert(0," "); 
	if(str.find(key)==string::npos)//字符串查找 to 
	{
		cout<<-1<<endl;
	 } 
	 else
	 {
	 	cout<<Count(key,str)<<' '<<str.find(key);
	  } 
	return 0; 
}

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